I consider the type of bullet. It also burns hot, runs hot in your gun. You are using an out of date browser which is likely incompatible with our website. with 125 Gr Blue Bullets. I use 3.5g Titegroup under a 147g JHP. Still using 4.0 Grains of Titegroup with 124 Gr Jacketed and 3.6 Gr. Thanks for your patience. Probably saved me some money. Both are off according to the newer data I am not afraid to pull them apart and use data that I can easily find and a powder that has more bullets listed for it. After serving his country, George spent 20 years serving his community as a police officer. An avid outdoorsman, he enjoys hunting and fishing with his family and mentoring youth through his ministry service. Didn't see any Tightgroup on this chart but plenty others. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. From their home in Montana, Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha follows Chad, Marsha and their two boys-Walker and Wyatt-across the world in hunting adventures. Titegroup has it all low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. I load 115gr Berry's plated at 1.125" with 4.5gr of Titegroup. Doubling that will come close to including practice rounds spent at his one-of-a-kind shooting range he built on the edge of the Snake River Canyon. Starting load is 4.5gr for 1135fps. I was intrigued with 3-Gun since, as a police officer, I relied on all three platforms at work. Then work up from there. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! Shes also the co-director of her local club, the AZ LRPRS, assisting in facilitating monthly matches throughout the year. These loads were tested using my Caldwell Ballistic Precision Chronograph Premium Kit. I was ordering my daughter an archery set and decided to order a Lee classic loader in 9mm. Does anyone have a link to somewhere with this info? Maximum loads from Sierra: 115 gn bullets: Titegroup - 3.6 gn - 1100 fps. Next, plated bullets have tradionally been loaded using cast lead data. Obligatory start low and work your way upSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk, Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. Keyboards and steering wheels bring out the absolute worst in people. FYI, when you think about it..even the amount of crimp can/will/could affect things. He volunteers as an alter sever at Mass on Sunday at church and is a member in the Civilian Airpatrol Program. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. Snake River PRS club has become his pride and joy with a dedication to growing the sport by recruiting and supporting new and youth shooters. So I looked up the Titegroup load data and The 115 grain 9mm load data for LRN is only .5 grains less than the 230 grain 45ACP LRN. I am doing 3.7gr of Titegroup 124gr bullet. As a rule though, i try to keep it at the distance specified by the chrono brands i`m using. I have found charge weights that fall in the allowable range. Make an introduction to Jake and youll instantly receive a big grin and firm handshake. You can post now and register later. He has over 35 years experience in shooting, with approximately 50 tons of projectiles downrange with the assistance of Hodgdon Powder. It's great for light target loads in revolvers but generates way too much pressure for mid-range loads or pistol loads Some powders that work much better are Power Pistol, BE86, or even the old standby . A plated bullet (Berry's, Rainier Ballistics) falls between the two. Pasted as rich text. (3.2-3.6g from the Hodgdon website). Used Titegroup and a variety of different weight and mfg bullets. My question is how much would you load into a 158gr bullet. ABOUT CHAD: Chad is a world champion elk caller and two-time Eastern US Elk Calling Champion. Panel recommends more gun restrictions to lower military suicides, 12ga progressive reloader Ponsness Warren, (250) Hornady XTP 45 Cal 300gr Projectiles, Vintage Bushnell ScopeChief 22LR 4x scope. A couple months later, Zach shot USAYESS competition in Grand Island. What we load doesn't mean it will be safe for you. Here is what I have to work with and have used a combination of 3 books, 3 magazines, and self-reported loads from the interwebs. MM thanks for that comment on the adjustable charge bar. I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. Thanks guys. Walkalong, that was my guess also, but there are other fast powders listed with 900fps and 950fps loads. A forum community dedicated to all 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. We place limited powder inventory for sale on a regular basis on our website. It's the cheapest and most available powder for 9mm in my area. JavaScript is disabled. Better like this than some of the disasters I've seen where someone basically takes a wild guess at something. You cannot paste images directly. The game hooked me, but I fell in love with the people! Since returning to competition on 2009, Dianna has earned a plethora of High Lady wins, including the 2013 and 2016 USPSA Ladies Open National Championship. I didn't use TG; it was Longshot (or WW452AA?) Special Order 9MM (.356) 38/.357 (.358) 125 Gr Round Nose; 147 Gr Round Nose; 158 Gr Semi Wad Cutter; . Shooting steel plates or need to shoot fast? His last three years of service were spent at the 1st Marine Division Scout Sniper School as the Primary Marksmanship Instructor. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. I have found it to be very accurate, and prefer it over my power pistol loads. He was trained as an armorer in the US Army, where he spent six years as a Military Police Investigator. A devoted husband and father, Jake has formal degrees in sports medicine and youth ministry. She recently took on the role of Southwest Regional Director for the Precision Rifle Series. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. This year my NRL Hunter has been with H-1000 and its incredible! I sold off all except Titegroup. and 8 lb. Phillip Velayo currently serves as Gunwerks Long Range University Lead Instructor. In 2016, she plans to lead a delegate of women to Capitol Hill in an effort to give legislators a face to put with gun owners. I got the adjustable charge bar for rifle loads and tried it out with titegroup and it did not work. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. In fact, Jake has compiled more wins than any other Shooter in the United States at national level Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League events during that span. Residing in Cheney Washington, Jake Vibbert owns JC Steel targets Inc. and is a strong competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and the National Rifle League. Hodgdon Titegroup: Quest for the Perfect 9mm Hand Load Part 10 behind a 115gr. He is also the past Editor of Blackpowder Guns and Hunting Magazine. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Be sure to enter theNES/MFS March Giveaway ***Taurus G3c***. JavaScript is disabled. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Titegroup 3.4grs 968 FPS G34 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 668 Scottsdale, AZ Posted January 28, 2018 Notes 2: 3.5grs Tite Group Distance to Chrono (FT): 5.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.212 Bullet Weight (gr): 147.00 Temp: N/A F BP: N/A inHg Altitude: 0.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 957 298.99 140.68 9 947 292.77 139.21 8 959 300.24 140.97 Zach, a resident of McCook, Nebraska, started shooting trap and hunting when he was 10. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. WARNING: If you are a newer reloader, you do not want to start out using this powder. Used for my 9mm loads mostly. Makes an impression on you. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. Notes: Chronograph figures are for five rounds taken with the start screen at approximately 6 feet. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I don`t recall my OAL for either without looking in my load notebook. They are calibrated at/for specified distances. Some flake powders have a wider range and they need it because they meter poorly. I am really enjoying reloading 45 ACP on my Lee classic loader. RN for about 10 years with excellent results in my Glocks and STI pistols. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! The current Lyman manual (49th Edition) does not have load data for anything heavier than 147 grains, but older manuals do. Wyatt has won numerous elk calling competitions at the ISE Best of the West Elk Calling Competition. If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. Hodgton indicates you can go to 4.1. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. Makes a difference the JHP will be a little hot for FMJ - assuming you are not making SD rounds. The snubnosed .38 and .45 ACP handloads also turned in good results. Display as a link instead, I didn't think I was moving that fast, I just didn't know that I couldn't use FMJ data for the Berry's bullets. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. I do know its about mid charge range tho. Same load just use the coal from another powders load. HP and RN load data are practically interchangeable since you should be working up from the minimum anyways. looking4reloadingdeals Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I really enjoy the community as well as the sport. OAL is about 1.139 give or take. The google sheet has been updated for those interested in the difference or who want to reference the sheet. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp, https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-perfect-powder-measure-90058.html, Firearms News and Firearms related political news. In addition to shooting, Zach plays plays baseball, basketball, football, and track & field. You don't want to just use data from a similar bullet. Reply Quote. I looked at 9mm load data for 115, 124, 147gr and the range for Titegroup is, well, tight. Im loading either 115gr or 125gr HP. This made me wonder if it is a velocity issue, or a powder charge below 3.7gr issue since all these loads are for the same bullets. Otherwise I would go 10% below the start for the closest slug the book had. Titegroup This is a flattened spherical powder. Me thinks not, but I could be wrong. All loads used Winchester Small Pistol primers. I used 4.5 grains of Titegroup with a 115 grain Berry's FMJ bullet and an OAL of 1.125 to 1.130. No Charges? Unlike pistol powders of the past, powder position in large cases (45 Colt, 357 Magnum and others) has virtually no effect on velocity and performance. No part of the landscape, from pop cans to squirrels, was immune to a 10 round burst from a Ruger. He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions. I have loaded 38 spl with 5.4 grains with a 125g bullet. Works good in everything from my 1911 to Glock YMMV. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Chad is also the Director of Advertising & Media Relations for CVA Muzzleloaders, PowerBelt Bullets, Bergara USA, DuraSight Rings and Bases, Quake Industries and Konus Optics. This works well for me, although the TG seems to meter a bit inconsistant, so I bought some WSF to try out. Except that is going to be huge high pressure and very dangerous. Soon I got a lot more comfortable as I did it a lot. and seated them to 1.150" as best as I recall. In the last several years I have really focussed on the PRS, ELR, and NRL Hunter. All of them are asking their parents for shotshell presses now. Save Share. /wp-content/uploads/2016/08/HODGDON_LOGO_DARK.png, https://hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/titegroup_1_lb.jpg. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Would the hp OAL be the same as that of the RN? A forum community dedicated to Carolina firearm owners and enthusiasts. Thanks all. Both Plated round nose and JHP. Nuff said. Reloading is a personal responsibility and you must start low and work up and NEVER ASSUME. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. Every match Ive been to that chronoshas the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. Unique. 1 - 4 of 4 Posts. They are impressed by the light recoil and how cheap it is compared to buying new AA shells for practice or matches. Speer says 4.5gr is max, Lyman say 4.5gr is max w/ 115gr bullets, so I am having a diff time digesting your data. He has also put together the first online Precision Rifle Training series of its kind, gaining viewers from all over the world on the JC Steel Targets website. Pressure 27,100 to 31,400. There have been some top 10 ELR finishes as well but I dont remember the specifics. The gun to be used is a Sig M11-A1 9mm, 4" barrel, standard recoil spring. For very low charge weights the opening is not big enough to constantly fill the volume resulting in very erratic metering. I am about to load my first rounds and need some data. 9 mm Luger - Published Manufacturer Loading Data. On 1/7/2020 at 8:30 PM, looking4reloadingdeals said. After graduating college, Ryan moved to Tulsa, OK to take a position as a plastics engineer and in 2011 began shooting 3-Gun competitively. 1.100 in. If you don't mind my asking, where did your recipe come from? Your link has been automatically embedded. For instance I use Montana Gold hollow points and consider them to be pretty much the same as Speer/Hornady. Started at 3.8 but it would not cycle my guns correctly so had to up it. You will get better accuracy and much better function with a mid-burn rate powder such as Unique, Universal, AA#5, or Power Pistol. plated or jacketed bullet at 1150 fps minimum came closest to the ideal load. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. I've had no issues in sever thousand loads, other than having to adjust COAL a few thousandths one way or the other. Lee made a micro charge disc that may help with small loads. The maxorder quantity of any powder SKU is, https://shop.hodgdon.com/sites/www/files/2022-04/2022-Hodgdon%20Spherical%20Pow. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. All bullets were taper crimped as a separate step in the handloading . I usually use the data for lead bullets when i load plated ones. I'll be firing it through either the Glock 19 or 43. Im liking the W231 better as of late in the 9mm tho. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. An avid shooter and outdoorsman, George takes pride in the quality custom rifles that G.A. My M&P and G34 love the 115 and 124s, but the 147s won't group for crap in either gun with any load and I took it up to 3.9 which is pretty hot. Velocities taken at ~4-5 feet from barrel. This is a new powder to me and I understand that it is a fast burn powder. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.